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Kyle Smith
Film Handler

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From: Branford, CT, USA
Registered: Oct 1999


 - posted 06-07-2000 03:11 PM      Profile for Kyle Smith     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well I'm sure you guys and gals from the Drive Ins have had plenty. At an indoor two-plex I work at, we had a very strong thunder and lightning storm last Friday night. I asked the owner if we had backup generators and he said "no". I thought, "great". Sure as can be, a flow of heavenly electricity disrupted our power and shut down cinema #2 (all Strong equipment, very reliable when not subjected to 1.21 Gigowatts killing the power ) Funny that it didn't stop cinema #1 though. Woody Allen must have a pact with God or something (we were running "Small Time Crooks" in #1). Anyway, that's the first time that's happened on my shift. Any other stories out there?

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Evans A Criswell
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From: Huntsville, AL, USA
Registered: Mar 2000


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Not long back, a small tornado went through near the Regal Hollywood 18 theatre here in Huntsville and did major damage to one
nearby business, and very minor damage to the theatre. One person reported that while in the theatre, the ceiling separated from the top of the wall for an instant and the sky could be seen. If true, I would imagine this to be a very frightening experience. It seems that a theatre auditorium would be one of the most unsafe places to be during a tornado due to the high ceiling and wide open room.

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Robb Johnston
Expert Film Handler

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From: St. Louis Suburbs
Registered: Nov 1999


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Not a booth story but a theatre story. We opened the day Hurricane Floyd hit last september. A couple of people came out of our house 2 and let us know that water was streaming through the ceiling tiles and HVAC vents.

I got sent out onto the roof to find water deep enough that it was backing up into the HVAC unit and down the duct work ruinig about 45 ceiling tiles, and causing considerable damage to seat cushions.

Why didn't the drains acomodate the rain which was about an hour from hitting its peak? Someone had left a Gatorade bottle on the roof which perfectly plugged the drain hole at the edge of the roof.

Fortunately, I had the forethought to wear shorts and a T-shirt instead of my regular work clothes.

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Scott D. Neff
Theatre Dork

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From: San Francisco, CA
Registered: Oct 1999


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A couple years back most of the west coast power grid went off-line for about an hour --- I forget the reason. I remember sitting at my box office getting phone calls from various friends up and down the state of California - asking me if our power was out.

Oddly enough - NO - our power went out for 5 minutes and then came back on. Our half of the shopping center was the only part of town with power for about 2 hours.

Our itty-bitty 5-plex was the busiest theatre that night. Oh it was lovely.

I later found that our half of the shopping center is on the same grid as the local hospital --- so when they work on restoring power - they restore it to the hospital's grid first.

LUCKY LUCKY US!

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Brad Miller
Administrator

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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99


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Note to self: If ever building a theater, locate it as close as possible to a hospital.

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David Kilderry
Master Film Handler

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From: Melbourne Australia
Registered: Sep 1999


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How many stories do you want!

Several drive-ins here in Melbourne lost part of their screens at various times. Sometimes the show went on until repairs were made by kicking the machines over if the show was in w/s.

All drive-ins I worked in had standby generators, so were OK when the power went out.

A couple suffered from fog. One night at Maribyrnong drive-in, the first feature was fine, then literally in 15 minutes of intermission you could not see either screen, fog passes issued to all!

I also know of one drive-in that used to flood.

Come to think of it electrical storms always made for a weird atmosphere at the drive-in, with thunder claps and flashes of lightening.

David Kilderry

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John Pytlak
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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
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In my foolish youth, we had a long-wire radio antenna stretched from the booth to the top of the screen in the drive-in I worked at. As a thunderstorm approached, I saw a long spark occur from the antenna feed to ground every time there was a nearby lightning strike, from the induced electrostatic pulse. In hindsight, I'd hate to think what would have happened with a direct strike to our screen tower. I recall hearing that hundreds of "scientists" died trying to duplicate Ben Franklin's kite in a thunderstorm experiment.

Unless the power was completely off, or no one showed up, we never stopped a film due to the weather --- the show went on through torrential downpours, thunderstorms, snow, and fog.

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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Fax: 716-722-7243
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David Kilderry
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John, I don't know what fog is like in New York, but when we had fog at one of our drive-ins here in Melbourne, Australia, you could not see a picture 25 ft from the booth, let alone the screen that was 100 plus feet away!

Never stopped for rain though, no matter how heavy.

David Kilderry

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John Pytlak
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David:
I can recall only a few nights with fog that heavy. We kept running, making the changeovers by watching the image above the projector gate to see the cue marks. I don't think the few cars that stayed on the lot were actually watching the movie, if you know what I mean.

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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Fax: 716-722-7243
E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com

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Ky Boyd
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From: Santa Rosa, CA, USA
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As a follow-up to Scott's story about the west coast power failure. I was working at Landmark's Embarcadero Center Cinema (a 5 screen arthouse) in San Francisco at the time. Because we were in the financial district - less than 3 blocks from the Pacific Stock Exchange - we did not lose power either. So, locating in a major financial center is not a bad place to be either.

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Randy Rock
Film Handler

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From: Seattle, WA USA
Registered: Apr 2000


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Not exactly weather related, but...

A few years ago I was working a relief shift at the Lincoln Theater (1926, mostly original architecturally) in Mt. Vernon Washington. The booth (which protrudes into the auditorium)is about three stories above the sidewalk, booth floor is about 12 feet above rear of auditorium, and is attached to the auditorium rear wall and suspended from the ceiling. It is accessed by a ladder attached to the outside of the booth. When someone heavy climbs the ladder the booth shakes a bit. The building is wood frame.

Somewhere during the second reel I felt the booth floor shake a bit and assumed that Peter the manager was coming up to chat. I happened to look through a port into the auditorium and was amazed to see that patrons were rushing out of the theater! Simultaneously I heard a large roaring sound and realized the that two Simplex E7/Peerless Magnarc projectors were dancing around the booth. Earthquake!! Faster than I thought possible I opened the DC knife switch on the pedestal, shut down the E7, pulled up the resistive dimmer bank for the house white lights, dived out the door and slid down the ladder and was the last one out of the theater onto the street.

Fortunately the quake was short, and a quick check of the theater revealed no damage. About 100 or so of the 120-some patrons stayed, and the show went on. I did have to take a pry bar and move the projectors back into position on the fly- they were pointing the right direction, but about 6 or 10 inches off center line to the screen.

This is probably old hat in California, but it's big excitement here in Washington.

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Ken Layton
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From: Olympia, Wash. USA
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Back in December 1999, at our theater in Post Falls, Idaho, we had a sign company come over at 12 noon and relamp our freestanding marquee. Also they got a new sign face, letter tracks, and a new font of letters.
At 9:30 that night a 60 mile an hour windstorm reduced the marquee to a pile of rubble!


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John Pytlak
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Has anyone experienced the drive-in destruction portrayed in "Twister" for real, or know of a drive-in that has?

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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Fax: 716-722-7243
E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com

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John Pytlak
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Randy:

At a trade show a few years ago, someone showed me some photos of a booth where the projectors and platters had been pulled out of position, and even tipped on their side, claiming that this was due to a platter feed failure with super-strong polyester film stock. My immediate skepticism made him admit the photos were really taken just after an earthquake.

That's not to say that theatres don't need to follow Kodak's long-standing recommendation to have tension-sensing failsafes to stop the projector in the event of a platter jam. Most of the platter manufacturers now have these available, and others are made by companies like Kelmar, Teco, and Avask.

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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Fax: 716-722-7243
E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com

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Tim Reed
Better Projection Pays

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From: Northampton, PA
Registered: Sep 1999


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The Bluegrass D/I, Georgetown, KY was the first d/i in that part of the state, opening in 1942. It had a great curved, concrete block screen tower, with openings in the bottom, from when they had a central speaker system. The booth was underground, with the bottoms of the projector ports AT GROUND LEVEL! Man, this theatre had the steepest projection angle I've ever seen in a drive-in. The bases were on concrete "ramps", that helped them tilt back far enough, where they needed to be, and with the big Ashcraft Super Cinex lamps on, they looked like they would fall over backward! Needless to say, every time it rained, that booth filled up with water and the show HAD to be stopped. This is the only drive-in I've ever seen that was routinely stopped because of weather. They had to, or else the operator could be killed.

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