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Rob Brooks
Film Handler

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From: NY, U.S.A.
Registered: Oct 1999


 - posted 06-06-2000 03:09 PM      Profile for Rob Brooks   Email Rob Brooks   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
How many lobby monitors or video walls do you have? What do you think is the movie going public's reaction to seeing trailers and advertisements while they wait on concession lines. Is it adding to the fun of going to the movies or just more, more, more advertising for the theater circuits. Now everyone can see just about every trailer out there.

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Ian Price
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From: Denver, CO
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 - posted 06-06-2000 03:31 PM      Profile for Ian Price   Email Ian Price   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I used to work for a company that installed lobby video monitors and video walls. We also installed side programs.

I now own my own movie theatre. There are no lobby video monitors, video walls or slide projectors. Does this tell you something?

For in-theatre maketing we have flyers, postcards, trailers (no more than 3 per film) and posters.

What we need is more out of theatre marketing that is effective and inexpensive.

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Joe Redifer
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I work in your typical megaplex (although ours is better than most) and we do not any provisions for showing trailers in the lobby!

That's the way it should be. I don't like making people watch the same trailers again in the auditorium. Plus it is super-tacky and the noise that eminates is annoying.

Ian used to work for the enemy. Not only did he install this crap, it was VIDEO and he loved it!

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Sean M. Grimes
Expert Film Handler

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From: Lunenburg, MA
Registered: Apr 2000


 - posted 06-06-2000 06:50 PM      Profile for Sean M. Grimes   Author's Homepage   Email Sean M. Grimes   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I actually like lobby rearscreens. At my theater we have a super simplex with a five hundred watt orocon(sp) lamphouse playing all of the "current" trailers. when we dont run it our patrons are so very dissapointed... which leads me to a question that prehaps is suited to it's own thread... does anyone out there know of any special way to actually keep a strong endless loop projector from not brain wrapping? I have tried all of the brain adjustments in the manual but the "perfect star shape" just never seems to stay. Maybe the perfect solution is just a lighter and about five gallons of gas... (:

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Scott Norwood
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From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas)
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For a while, a lot of the newer Regal theatres were being built with smallish rear-screen 35mm projection setups for the lobbies. I don't know if they still do this, but I thought that it was a reasonable idea, as long as it didn't disrupt lobby traffic and as long as the sound wasn't turned up too high. Some of these setups used endless-loop platters and others used conventional platters carrying an hours' worth of film (or so).

I don't know if the newer Regal theatres are still being built with this feature or not.

I guess that I'd say that I'm sort of lukewarm on this concept, but it really depends on the type of theatre. What is appropriate for a typical generic multiplex is not necessarily so for an art house.

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Ian Price
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 - posted 06-06-2000 07:12 PM      Profile for Ian Price   Email Ian Price   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Regal was doing rear screen film projection in the lobby. They are trying to switch out to video.

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Scott D. Neff
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From: San Francisco, CA
Registered: Oct 1999


 - posted 06-07-2000 02:39 AM      Profile for Scott D. Neff   Author's Homepage   Email Scott D. Neff   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
One of our theatres has a used video wall -- it's not the best configuration - but I think it ads to the excitement of going to the movies.

UA does it fairly well at their older theatres by simply putting a 25in tv up near the ceiling on either side of the lobby and just plays a videotape of trailers. I think that this sort of installation is small enough to ignore, yet obvious enough to work.

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Joshua Lott
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From: Fairbanks, AK, USA
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 - posted 06-07-2000 04:30 AM      Profile for Joshua Lott   Author's Homepage   Email Joshua Lott   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
At one point during a major promotion for a movie I had a flat screen tv installed in the theatre lobby. It was complete with its own receiver, surround speaker and subwoofer! I also had two 27" tv's mounted at the ends of our concession stand. The crowd really enjoyed it. I wasn't playing a bunch of trailers but I was playing the "making of" for several upcoming movies. I kept it up beat. And it distracted people if they were waiting in a concession line to long. After that promotion they removed the flat screen (worth over $10,000) and put in a 65" tv. It was very cool and very professionally done. I also had a local tv/production place make a special loop that made it special to my theatre.

It can be a good advertising tool that informs people more than a poster or something else if it is done right.

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John Pytlak
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I have rarely seen good quality on video lobby displays. On video walls, the different panels usually don't match for color or tone scale, and normal video doesn't have the quality to support such large displays close-up. Large screen projection video and even simple CRT monitors are often poorly maintained and incorrectly set up.

IMHO, video trailers for the current features are useful when displayed for those waiting in line to buy tickets, to aid them in their decision. But "coming attractions" are best shown once people are seated, on the large screen with good sound and no distractions, to build excitement for future movie-going.

I really dislike being subjected to television-like commercials anywhere in a theatre.

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Aaron Sisemore
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Scotty Said:
"One of our theatres has a used video wall -- it's not the best configuration - but I think it ads (sic) to the excitement of going to the movies."

Unfortunately the thing has been broken for close to a year...

-Aaron
A cinema tech, not a TV repairman...


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Joe Redifer
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 - posted 06-08-2000 12:32 AM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Perhaps they should play all of the ads in the lobby on a TV screen - like Coke/Pepsi, Moviephone, Hollywood Online, Levi's, Will Rogers, Dealin' Dougs Used Cars, etc.... And the film trailers should play in the auditorium.

I hate ads. There is no escaping them these days. It makes me sick.

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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99


 - posted 06-08-2000 01:51 AM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Joe that is such an excellent idea! It's ashamed no one will do it though. Advertisers want their "captive audience" (aka: trapped in advertising hell).

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