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Topic: Censorship on Film-Tech
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Steve Kraus
Film God
Posts: 4094
From: Chicago, IL, USA
Registered: May 2000
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posted 05-25-2000 08:35 PM
Should discussions run until they lose steam of their own accord or should they be shut down because the administrator decides that enough is enough? Note I'm not questioning the RIGHT to do with a web site as the owner pleases. I'm questioning whether they SHOULD. To me the main advantage of this forum over r.a.m.t. is the immediacy without waiting for the vagaries of post distribution through usenet. The downside is that a web site is under single control whereas usenet, being a distributed system, answers pretty much to no one. So what are other peoples thoughts on this? Open, frank, uncensored discussions vs. personal fiefdom? Let me also take this opportunity to clarify that while I vigorously and strenuously defend my position on various subjects nothing I say should be taken too personally. And no, I'm not big on using smilies.
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John Wilson
Film God
Posts: 5438
From: Sydney, Australia.
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 05-25-2000 09:11 PM
Just because the thread is now closed, doesn't mean it's censorship. If it were me, I would have closed it long before as it just kept going over the same things again and again ad nauseum.AND it didn't even answer the original question!  Steve, I suggest you start learning how to use smilies. Even though you may not mean to piss others off, if you don't use them, it will be taken the wrong way. Where IS Alan Brandt by the way?   ------------------
"It's not the years honey, it's the mileage".
Indiana Jones.
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Greg Anderson
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 766
From: Ogden Valley, Utah
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 05-25-2000 10:27 PM
I may have to ask you to excuse me for this... but...I find those smilies to be extremely annoying and I don't use them. There are some things which a person believes in and NOTHING can make him change his mind. This is one of them. I usually click that "Disable Smilies in This Post" box hoping it'll disable all smilies in a particular thread, but it never works. Now you're saying that if we don't use those things people will always take us seriously. Please! I also have no idea what "<g>" means and I don't care. Generally, I'm not fond of any Internet-inspired abbreviations. I also can't stand when people use abbreviations to discuss movies. For several days last year, I wondered which movie people were discussing when I saw TWINE mentioned on the Internet (It turned out to be a James Bond movie). I hate it when Steven Spielberg talks about his movies and never uses the full title. He talks about "Jurassic" or "Empire" or "41" and I'm surprised he doesn't refer to Hook as "H" or something. Come on! If you wanted the movie to be called "41" why didn't you just call it that? I'd love to listen to a conversation between George Lucas and Steven Spielberg in which the two were talking about "Empire" and confusing each other. Okay... that's my rant (without any graphical icons to help you figure it out). And, by the way, my first name isn't "Gregory" either because my parents knew they'd never call me that.
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John Walsh
Film God
Posts: 2490
From: Connecticut, USA, Earth, Milky Way
Registered: Oct 1999
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posted 05-25-2000 11:19 PM
I changed my mind. I'm chopping off 40 frames from now on!But, really, I sort of agree with both John W. and Steve K. Postings should have _something_ to more clearly indicate the writer intent (such as smilies but it could be other things)
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readers should sort of mentally include the statement, "In my opinion" at the end of a posting, and not get too wrapped up.
Pretty wishy-washy opinion, I know, but...! Actually, I thought the "Frames" thread had gotten unstuck from the, "chop/don't chop" topic to a more constructive, "how to mark reels" topic. But, Brad's done a great job running (and creating) the whole site, which takes time and money to run- and no advertising. If he feels its time to mellow out, OK. There are always topics worth arguing over- I'm sure we'll find another one!
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Steve Kraus
Film God
Posts: 4094
From: Chicago, IL, USA
Registered: May 2000
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posted 05-26-2000 09:11 AM
Eh? Resume'? Hardly so. I merely misconstrued that the titles were assigned based on experience so with that in mind I described some of the work that I've done in this field, specific types of tasks like running dailies on, setting up location booths, etc. By contrast a resume' lists employers, eduation, etc. Perhaps somewhere in here it explains how the labels are based on posting but if so I haven't seen it. So in absence of other explanation it's entirely logical to have presumed that the labels are assigned and to have sent Brad some background info to work from. I know Brad mentioned that in an attempt to publicly embarrass me but that's misguided because it was a logical presumption. Perhaps someone can point me to where the labeling is explained so I don't have to search for it.Now, as for my disagreement with Brad over that one thread perhaps you folks are the ones taking things a bit too seriously. This is a good site and if I didn't think so I wouldn't be here. Surely I can have a disagreement with the man without invalidating that basic opinion. Finally, I would be most appreciative if someone would point out one of my prior posts in "that thread" where they think I was too rude or whatever it is that many of you seem to think was wrong or inappropriate, etc. When I look back over them myself all I see is a vigorous defense of my position, but maybe I can't see the forest for the trees. I shall keep an open mind but so far I don't see what the fuss is about. Please enlighten. Someone ought to be able to back up their opinion with a quote or two.
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