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Sean M. Grimes
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 247
From: Lunenburg, MA
Registered: Apr 2000

posted 05-25-2000 04:35 AM

Just a quick throwout has anyone else had horrible horrible print quality of MI2? I have checked with three other theaters in my area and they are all really really bad...

Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99

posted 05-25-2000 05:15 AM

No problems here except for one reel on the 3rd print that came tails out (all other reels were heads out). The ends of the reel had fingerprints all over it and both ends were scratched. All prints were new.

Jim Ziegler
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Posts: 753
From: West Hollywood, CA
Registered: Jul 99

posted 05-25-2000 05:24 AM

I had to replace 4 reels total for my three prints. 3 of the reels had large black splotches all over them. The 4th one had massive color shifting, and almost faded totally out.

Once again, further proof that Deluxe sucks..

John Pytlak
Film God

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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000

posted 05-25-2000 05:30 AM

Sean:

What problems did your prints have to be considered "horrible horrible print quality"?
Might they have been mishandled before as previews? Were all the reels affected, or was the same reel in each print the one with the problem?

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John Pytlak
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posted 05-25-2000 05:40 AM

Jim:

Were the reels with "large black splotches" all the same reel number? Were the splotches on the left side of the screen? What were the print numbers and magenta edgeprint codes, to aid in tracking the problem?

Black splotches are sometimes due to splashes of the silver soundtrack developer (one reason for the upcoming conversion to cyan dye analog soundtracks). If so, they would tend to be on the left hand side of the screen.

Paul Konen
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Posts: 981
From: Frisco, TX. (North of Dallas)
Registered: Jun 99

posted 05-25-2000 08:28 AM

During reel 3, I had a white tick that would show up at the bottom, go up, go up and go up one more time and then restart the whole process. It was toward the end of the reel for about 5 minutes if not more.

I would guess that it was some kind of sprocket damage during printing.

As Brad mentioned in a previous thread, it is distracting with all the positive dirt that was being displayed. White dots and squiggles.

I also think that during one scene when Ethan is in bed with Naya (aka Hottie), that I saw what appeared to be a hair in the gate. It went away in the next scene so I think it was filmed this way. I will have to watch for that again.

Joe Redifer
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From: Denver, Colorado
Registered: May 99

posted 05-25-2000 08:42 AM

I also noticed the "hair in the gate". It was at the bottom of the screen and went away when the scene changed. Looks like this one was rushed out to meet the deadline!

John Pytlak
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posted 05-25-2000 09:15 AM

A "tick" that moves up the image in a regular fashion is usually due to damage from a burr on a roller. For example, if film is running over a 2-inch diameter roller that has a burr or rough spot on it, the mark will occur exactly every 2 X Pi inches, or about every 6.283 inches (assuming no slippage). Since this is not an exact multiple of the 4 X 0.187 = 0.748 inch frame height, the image caused by the burr will be seen on every 8th frame, but repositioned in the frame by 6.283 - (8 X 0.748) = 0.299 inches.

If you measure the exact distance between each "tick" mark and divide by Pi, you can calculate the diameter of the roller that caused the damage. Providing this information when you return the damaged reel will help track and fix the problem.

If there is a stationary black "hair" visible in only one scene, it was likely debris in the camera gate. As Joe said, they may have been too far along into production to reshoot or digitally "erase" the hair in the scene.

If the black "hair" is there throughout the movie, clean your projector aperture!

Mark Huff
Film Handler

Posts: 69
From: Springfield, IL, USA
Registered: May 2000

posted 05-25-2000 01:35 PM

The only problem I had was that Tom Cruise's parents and some of his relatives came to our theatre and had to have a tour of our booth (75 people). I hate when my manager gives tours of our booth and does not tell me ahead of time. Anytime someone is in my booth i want to know. People like to touch things they know nothing about and that burnes me up.

Anyone else have unknown people wandering through their booth.

Dwayne Caldwell
Master Film Handler

Posts: 323
From: Rockwall, TX, USA
Registered: Apr 2000

posted 05-25-2000 03:02 PM

Hey! I remember there being a hair in a certain scene on my print too! I want to say it was one of those scenes with Tom Cruise and that Thandie Newton chick. I thought it might have been debris in the gate, but it went away on a scene change.

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Aaron Sisemore
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From: Rockwall TX USA
Registered: Sep 1999

posted 05-25-2000 06:43 PM

Black/Purple Splotches? pieces of white tape stuck in random places in a reel? Typical DeLuxe Hollywood for ya. Happens a LOT. and ONLY on prints from DeLuxe Hollywood.

Aaron

Mike Blakesley
Film God

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From: Forsyth, Montana
Registered: Jun 99

posted 05-26-2000 01:07 AM

I wonder what genius at Paramount decided not to put the TITLE OF THE FREAKING MOVIE on the one-sheets (except in the small print in the credit block). I had two 50-ish people walk in tonight and wonder what the hell "M I 2" was.

I blame Fox for starting it all with ID4.

Randy Stankey
Film God

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From: Erie, Pennsylvania
Registered: Jun 99

posted 05-26-2000 11:53 PM

I noticed a lot of the thing you people noticed.

What really takes the cake was that we were booked with three prints of this movie and only two of them showed up. The people at ETS told us they'd "look into it" and never called back. We almost had an empty auditorium on opening day until we called home office and got permission to shuffle around some doubled-up houses.

After a lot of calling around we found out that we won't be getting the third print and Paramount KNEW it! They made promises they couldn't keep and when the fit hit the shan they clammed up! It seems a lot of other people were in the same position, too. We were lucky to have gotten what we did get, I hear.

Russ Kress
Expert Film Handler

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From: Charleston, WV, USA
Registered: May 2000

posted 05-27-2000 01:26 AM

DISCLAIMER: This post is intended to be funny and should not be implied to be of an insulting nature to anyone.

Regarding the use of Pi as an investigative tool to ascertain the origin of the hair-like image that appears while Ethan is boinking the hottie...

Maybe we could just report the print number to the printing agent to determine which machine to check? Hello!!!!? <grin>

While you are all in thought mode, can anyone give me a cure for a Ballantyne problem? We have recently re-fitted a theatre to a huge screen/short throw format.

When we open the trap, it hits the lens and knocks it out of allignment.

I bitch about it to everyone, but I am equally guilty of flipping the trap open when threading.

Needless to say, fixing a Ballantyne (Pro-35) lens collar is not something you want to do while an audience is watching!

Help me!!!

Russ

Sean M. Grimes
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 247
From: Lunenburg, MA
Registered: Apr 2000

posted 05-27-2000 05:35 AM

John,

On reel one of one and three of my prints and on two prints of one of our other locations in Syracuse there is a white "splotch" that appears randomly starts at the bottom right and moves diagionally up the screen to the left. I have allready ordered new reels and I know that the g.m. has allready at the other theater... I just can't understand why on such a "major" release that the feature would not be more closely inspected. Of course by now, I should be expecting this... But it sill does fry me.

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