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Ethan Harper
E-dawggg!!!

Posts: 325
From: Plano, TX, USA
Registered: May 2000


 - posted 05-17-2000 10:39 PM      Profile for Ethan Harper   Email Ethan Harper   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Lets face it, we all have our horror stories of techs or kid projectionists that simply dont know what they are doing. what is the weirdest, worst, etc. story you have to share? I am sure that we all have had plenty. oh yes, it is even safe to talk about your own screw ups as a rookie.

here is one of mine.

One time the owner of cinemark decided to screen Titanic in his house. (he has his own in house booth and hires cinemark UB's to run film). The proj. ws returning back to the theater and was carrying the print by his lone self up the emergency stairs in the back of the building when all of the sudden, uh-oh the ceneter ring collapsed and down from the heads to the tails comes the famous unraveling Titanic. A movie i am guessing about 3 and a half miles long. the manager was not there at the right time to help him out. She just missed the print. I believe after countless hours of picking it back up and rewinding on to the proper reels, courier picked up print and sent it to, oh yes we all know him as, Brad Miller.

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Randy Stankey
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 - posted 05-17-2000 11:02 PM      Profile for Randy Stankey   Email Randy Stankey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Okay, PAINFUL mistakes I have made:

1) Grabbing a Neumade splicer in a hurry and hitting my fingers on the razor blades.

2) Doing an emergency lamp change (CFS lamphouse) -- I reached in to feel if the lamp was cool enough to change yet. Of course, you can't feel heat through a leather glove so I had to reach in bare handed. I didn't actually touch the lamp, just put my hand about 3 inches from it. It was still hot so I instinctively recoiled my hand out of the way. Dumb-ass-me! I hit my hand on the rough edge of the dichroic cold-mirror and split my knuckle open! I got the show going again before I went to the hospital to get stitches, however! (It only took 3 of them but it bled like hell.)


PAINFUL mistake ANOTHER person made in my presence:

While rewinding a 6K reel full of film, he grabbed the reel, spinning at top speed, with his bare hand. I don't remember if he had to get stitches but he bled like hell too!

So, the moral of the story is:
"When I say I give blood and sweat for this company, I really mean it!"


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Scott Magie
Film Handler

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From: St. Albans, VT USA
Registered: Mar 2000


 - posted 05-18-2000 12:42 AM      Profile for Scott Magie   Email Scott Magie   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Okay this is about as embarrassing (and as painful)as it gets. In my third year of film school, I'm shooting a documentary project in a 3-person group. I was unanimously chosen to be the cinematographer due to my extensive experience. Unfortunately, my experience was in using a different camera (the Eclair-ACL for those of you who care). Now, when loading the Eclair, you thread everything inside the magazine (in the darkroom or tent)... then, when you go to shoot, you just attach the magazine to the camera and shoot. We were using the Arri-BL instead. After carefully threading the magazines, I proceeded to mount the mag to the camera and began shooting. Unfortunately for me, the Arri requires you to also thread the camera body. So... we drove for 2 hours, got entrance to the prison in which we were shooting (this had been pre-arranged months in advance), shot for most of the day, and returned home... happy with what we'd accomplished. We sent our stock to the lab for processing only to have them call us back and tell us that it was completely black! The film had merely been pulled from the pay-out side of the magazine to the take-up side... never passing through the camera gate! What's worse is that the other two group-members knew this about the Arri-BL, but assumed that I also knew it. You haven't felt stupid until you can top that!

ps- I'm not even gonna put my signature on this one, 'cuz years later... I'm still embarassed. (and no lookin' at the sidebar to see who I am!)

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Dustin Mitchell
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From: Mondovi, WI, USA
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 - posted 05-18-2000 12:49 AM      Profile for Dustin Mitchell   Email Dustin Mitchell   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Ok, I'm going to share my most painful and embarrasing moement here.

When we played "Mystery, Alaska" my manager had arranged a special sneak preview in cooperation with a local radio station. We do a lot of promo's with this station so this wasn't anything special.

Ok, so I build up the print right? This isn't anything new for me, and I'm not under any time pressure. I liesurely build it up and leave at 5, thinking the 7 sneak will go fine. I get a call about 9:30, "Geuss what you did." Well I....I can't believe I'm telling you guys this. Oh well. Somehow-to this day I don't knwo how-I got reels 6 and 4 mixed up. That's right folks, I built it in this order:
1, 2, 3, 6, 5, 4, 7

When pestered about that, which I am to this day, I merely reply, "I got the title and the credits in the right places, everything in between is just snow and hockey, doesn't matter."

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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
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 - posted 05-18-2000 02:49 AM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
No Ethan, I did not get that print. Where did you come up with that? ETS knows better than to send me a damaged print. It just doubles their work load once I open the cans and find out there is a mark on it.

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Dwayne Caldwell
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From: Rockwall, TX, USA
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 - posted 05-18-2000 08:52 AM      Profile for Dwayne Caldwell   Email Dwayne Caldwell   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I goofed up building up a print of Starship Troopers once. Let's just say I'll never take Techicolor at their word when they put the head and tail leaders on their reels. After this incident, I always check the orientation of the film image but anyway...

I had built up the print, checking the leaders to make sure the reels were heads up. Loaded the film up, and me and another co-worker screened it. I was really getting into it when reel six comes up. At the end of reel five, the troopers have reached an outpost after the slaughter. They all split up and search the place.

When the reel change occurs, four or five soldiers are upside down looking at something on the ground. I'm hoping this is the viewpoint of a victim, but I'm not buying it. Just hoping. A few seconds later, the Russian like gibberish dialogue starts up and I'm hightailing it upstairs.

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Jason R. Weinsteiger
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From: Kutztown, PA, USA
Registered: May 2000


 - posted 05-18-2000 10:23 AM      Profile for Jason R. Weinsteiger   Author's Homepage   Email Jason R. Weinsteiger   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
i've only been at this game for about 3 years now, so i guess the worst thing i ever did was put together a movie backwards.

And lucky me, it was "Saving Private Ryan." i'd been putting films together for quite some time at the point and had just been lucky i guess, cause i didn't know that a movie could come in tails-up and my boss, not the best teacher in the world, never told me.

Silly me, i didn't notice the problem til reel 9 when i noticed that the credits were at the beginning of the reel (i know these things have long credits, but 20 minutes?!) hehe

oh yeah, here's another: It was a sunday night i believe, when me and my coworker spent most of the night changing signs around (and not paying attention to the film). We were just finishing up the signs when i heard the music at the end of the film. i opened up the door to the booth and stood for a moment in shock and horror at the film, about 10% of which was on the platter, the other 90% had neatly distributed itself on the floor all around the booth. we were there for about an hour and a half untangling and running it back onto the platter. Annoyingly enough, while my coworker ran for a camera (before we picked the mess up) she later lost the film! that would have made a nice picture for my album.. *sigh*

jasoN

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John Pytlak
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 - posted 05-18-2000 10:30 AM      Profile for John Pytlak   Author's Homepage   Email John Pytlak   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'll bet more than a few of us have shed some blood from sharp edges on reels during inspection and rewinding.

The drive-in I worked at in the late 1960's had old RCA power amps (I recall they each had four 807 output tubes) with brittle wiring that occasionally caught fire on hot nights. We always had a CO-2 fire extinguisher handy to quell the flames and minimize the damage and subsequent repairs.

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Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Fax: 716-722-7243
E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com


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Mitchell Cope
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 - posted 05-18-2000 11:13 AM      Profile for Mitchell Cope   Email Mitchell Cope   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Didn't one of the television networks (a couple of decades ago) show a movie that had been built up wrong? That's a big mistake.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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 - posted 05-18-2000 11:39 AM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'll never forget the reel order mishap During the opening night for Cocoon 2 at a theater I used to service in Oak Park, Ill. The manager (who was also a Catholic Priest)was new and had assembled to film so that when the prople died and the next reel came on they were all back again. Patrons started comming out wondering what was wrong and how that could happen. Of course only the Priest was able to explain this to one and all...............
Mark

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Reeve Byrne
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From: Anchorage, Ak USA
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 - posted 05-18-2000 11:40 AM      Profile for Reeve Byrne   Email Reeve Byrne   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I was trying to remove a hair from the projector, when the film hit my finger, I instinctivly moved my had away, right into the sprocket whiched grabed my finger into the film path. I hit the stop button but I still had to sit there and wait for the projector to stop with the sprocket riping my flesh off. I pulled my finger out rethreaded the projector and pulled off the torn up skin. No blood at first, then about two minutes later I look down and it wouldn't stop bleeding for a half-hour.

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Michael Cunningham
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 - posted 05-18-2000 01:10 PM      Profile for Michael Cunningham   Email Michael Cunningham   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Ouch Reeve!

When did this happen? I was just kidding when I said I would feed various of your body parts to the projector if you screwed off! Sheesh...

I recall a time when, during a print build-up, I attempted to slow a 6000 reel down by hand after the film had wound off it to another 6000. I was using the heel of my hand against the face of the reel out near the edge, just above the holes through the flange. This was an older reel without the free-spinning core and was warped somewhat in places so I had to watch what I was doing. Just then (dramatic intro music) the manager snuck up the stairs behind me and allowed the booth door to slam behind him. I jumped, spun my head around and promptly inserted my thumb through one of the rapidly spinning flange holes. It sliced the skin off the top of my thumb and trimmed my fingernail for me. Very painful...and profusely bloody.

-Mike

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Dwayne Caldwell
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I was splicing something once and forgot to pull away one of my fingers (my left index if I remember correctly), so it clamped down and smashed the phalange good. I didn't get any blood on the film, but I danced around for a good five minutes with a paper towel wrapped around my finger. It healed though.

I also have had a finger pulled through a sprocket, an upper pull down sprocket. Again, the film got lucky because it was the tail leader of the film. I was more freaked out than hurt for about a good two minutes. Then the pain caught up with me and the peroxide only seemed to accentuate that pain. But it took me about thirty minutes to stanch the bleeding, and I didn't need any stitches.

Don't ask me how it is I did these things to myself. I still haven't figured out what possessed me to display such an enormous magnitude of sheer stupidity. But I assure you guys, I am safer now. You can trust me in a booth. Really!

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John Pytlak
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Dwayne:

I've seen Joe Redifer's "Projection Seminar" tape. Is that you with the blood spurting out when you get your fingers caught in the Christie or under the tape splicer's guillotine? That bare-bulb xenon explosion wasn't too pleasant either. Thank heaven for the Red Cross and Joe's SFX.

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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Fax: 716-722-7243
E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com

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Dave Williams
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 - posted 05-18-2000 02:55 PM      Profile for Dave Williams   Author's Homepage   Email Dave Williams   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
My most painful experience was when I couldnt get my marble splicer to cut the damn sprocket holes so I slammed the damn thing down. SHOULD HAVE MOVED MY FINGER OUT OF THE WAY. Broke the finger, but managed to miss all the blades. Still hurt like damn hell.

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