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Topic: 35mm Film Collector's Forum here?
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Wayne Coston
Film Handler
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From: Durant, Oklahoma, USA
Registered: Apr 2002
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posted 05-14-2000 06:55 PM
I confess, I am a lurker. I have 34 years experience with 16mm projection in the classroom and auditorium. I also spent 16 years of my career managing a university 16mm film libary. We provided films to on campus classrooms and outside schools and processed orders, shipped and received, repaired, cleaned and catalogued our stock. I would like to own my own theatre with professional 35mm equipment. I have learned much from the regular contributors. And someday, I hope my dream will come true. A big thanks to everyone.By the way our local Cinema, The Durant Twin Cinema, has four screens. The owner started with a twin. When it became successful, the other two screens were added! ------------------
F. Wayne Coston
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Bruce McGee
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1776
From: Asheville, NC USA... Nowhere in Particular.
Registered: Aug 1999
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posted 05-14-2000 09:40 PM
You dont have to be brilliant to post here. Look at me!I worked forever in TV editing 16mm.
I worked for two years total in a drive-in... The first summer I played Star Wars every night.... When I finally wised-up and got rid of the 25 year 16mm collection, and moved on up to 35mm, I got two of the worst examples of 35mm portables to run the films. I like the remarks made about the Holmes 8's here on Film-Tech... good and (funnier) bad. But, I dont think a forum here is a good idea either.
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Mitchell Cope
Master Film Handler
Posts: 256
From: Overland Park, KS, United States
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 05-15-2000 11:54 AM
It's a shame that 35mm film collecting is becoming such a "hands-off" type of issue. Of course, it has always been so, but things don't seem to be improving, but getting worse. (The restoration book on Vertigo refers to this as being a "clandestine" type of hobby. I like that description, not that I want it, though.) As far we know, HIAC may have taken the same route as eBay... it just wasn't worth the legal harrassment and with no real significant benefits for the service provider.The concept of a private forum is interesting, but who do you register and how can you positively ensure that a studio lawyer isn't allowed in? I respect Brad's wishes and think Film-Tech is terrific by itself. For those of us not in the film business, film collecting is our only avenue of getting in on the fun of projecting and working with film. You guys and gals higher up on the food chain, have pity on us collectors and wannabees. 
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Brad Miller
Administrator
Posts: 17775
From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99
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posted 05-15-2000 04:02 PM
It is interesting to note that on numerous occasions it was a collector's print which has now become the "new master" copy, as studio vaults have had floods or fires. Also, far too many negatives and such are stored in film cans...a no no with vinegar syndrome. Most collectors know of these things and will spend incredible amounts of money to ensure the safekeeping of their films. Heck, there have been old films dating as far back as the 1920s that were thought lost, but a collector turned up a pristine print that was carefully preserved from his own collection. Also, I know of not a single collector whom if approached by a studio looking for a film they have lost wouldn't gladly hand their copy over to restore the film for the future public.Collectors are honest (and of course, fanatics) people who are not harming the studios in any way whatsoever. None of them I've ever known charge for any exhibitions they may do in the privacy of their own home, and that would only be for a couple of close friends anyway. I think the real problem here is bootleggers. There is a BIG difference between a bootlegger and a collector. Collectors patiently wait until past the video release date to add a title to their collection, whereas bootleggers will actually break into a depot or theater to steal a print so they can transfer it to video and make a profit. They are two completely different things, yet collectors always seem to be made out to be criminals. It truly is sad.
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I propose, if Brad wanted to do so, that a 35mm film collectors forum be set up here at Film-Tech. Brad has earned my trust in that he didn't do what another site did; i.e., solicit manuals for on-line use then took them off-line to sell them on CD-ROM (with copyright protection, no less). 
Film-Tech is not likely to be corrupted by 16mm influences.
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