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Randy Stankey
Film God

Posts: 6539
From: Erie, Pennsylvania
Registered: Jun 99

posted 11-06-1999 11:01 PM

We received our print of Bone Collector this week and some of the reels were VERY dirty. Print was unused and packed in original bands. (Not that bands help much. -- Just that the print was fresh from the lab.)

The dirt looked like the print was 6 months old. The film cleaner (W/ F.G.) took off a lot of black, gritty stuff. Especially from reel 2.

PS: Guess what company delivered the print?

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Ken Layton
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1452
From: Olympia, Wash. USA
Registered: Sep 1999

posted 11-06-1999 11:12 PM

Did it start with a "T"?

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Randy Stankey
Film God

Posts: 6539
From: Erie, Pennsylvania
Registered: Jun 99

posted 11-06-1999 11:20 PM

Yeah. Not that I'm surprised, or anything. Just a general 'heads up' call. Maybe somebody else has seen it... or is about to see it.

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John Walsh
Film God

Posts: 2490
From: Connecticut, USA, Earth, Milky Way
Registered: Oct 1999

posted 11-07-1999 02:52 AM

I don't know if it's related, but we've got something like that on R5&6 of our print of "The Bachelor." Also, when it's on the platter, the edge of those reels seem rough.

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Jim Ziegler
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 753
From: West Hollywood, CA
Registered: Jul 99

posted 11-07-1999 03:00 AM

Our prints of Bone Collector were in good shape. One of our Insiders was ok, the other was so-so.

Is anyone else having problems with Bachelor running in DTS?

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Randy Stankey
Film God

Posts: 6539
From: Erie, Pennsylvania
Registered: Jun 99

posted 11-08-1999 04:30 PM

I don't know, Jim. Our GM likes Sony. She won't let us play it in DTS!

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Joe Redifer
You need a beating today

Posts: 12859
From: Denver, Colorado
Registered: May 99

posted 11-08-1999 04:43 PM

Sounds like your GM really sucks!

My print of Bachelor runs just fine and dandy in DTS. My print of Best Man, however, does not. When we first got the movie, the timecode light would flash, but it never dropped out of digital. The next week we moved it down to a smaller auditorium and it did the exact same thing in DTS, so it is obviously a poorly printed DTS timecode track. It happens.

We once had a print of (forget the name of the movie -- it was a Paramount horror sci-fi film with Sam Neil) when we opened a UA theatre I helped set up. The timecode was printed too thin. Paramount flipped and called and told me that was "impossible". You could easilly see this when looking at the film. They sent a replacement print.

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Brad Miller
Administrator

Posts: 17775
From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99

posted 11-08-1999 05:17 PM

Sounds to me like your GM is falling victim to "NAME RECOGNITION" by choosing Sony. She's probably got a Sony tv and stereo at home too.

In regards to the Bachelor not tracking in DTS, a friend at another theater had this problem and I suggested the cloth drag trick on the reader. Solved the problem. All of mine have this modification.

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Tom Ferreira
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 203
From: Conway, NH, USA
Registered: Jun 99

posted 11-08-1999 10:23 PM

Don't leave us in suspense-explain the cloth drag trick for the DTS reader.

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Stephen Jones 1
Film Handler

Posts: 62
From: Tulsa, OK, USA
Registered: Aug 1999

posted 11-09-1999 04:40 AM

I'm not sure if anyone else had this problem but I received Music of the Heart at my theatre. The DTS discs were included but every single reel was without timecode. I would have ordered another replacement, but I figure it sound nice in SR and we probably want keep the movie long.

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Scott Ribbens
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 118
From: Los Angeles
Registered: Oct 1999

posted 11-09-1999 06:43 AM

Yes, the double system won't have any problems

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Scott

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Brad Miller
Administrator

Posts: 17775
From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99

posted 11-09-1999 10:51 AM

Tom, take a close look at the pics of the DTS reader under UA Galaxy in the picture warehouse. Notice that white strip around the reader? That's a couple of layers of an extra plush paper towel called Value Choice Wipers (available from Fort Howard/Lind Paper). It is sandwiched between the back flange of the main DTS roller and the back wall of the reader itself. The idea is to create just a little bit of a drag on that roller, so that it doesn't spin freely, but not so much that it isn't easy for the film to spin it. The strips of towel are taped down on the backside of the reader, and then the reader is screwed back onto the bracket.

It is a one time modification and will force the film to run smoothly through the timecode head so that bouncing payout from a platter or a loose feed reel won't cause the wowing of the digital sound. If you have an older 2 drive unit, there are also free upgrade chips to help combat this, but in my opinion this trick works best.

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Gordon McLeod
Film God

Posts: 9532
From: Toronto Ontario Canada
Registered: Jun 99

posted 11-09-1999 06:41 PM

In several theatres I took a old 4 track mag penthouse and cut the front off and mounted the dts reader where the cluster used to be and that sure made them very stable There might be a picture of one under movieplex9 in the warehouse as well as one on the front of the DP75 at the same theatre and there you use the mag dampers but bypass the head

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