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Topic: SMPTE Projection Technology Committee Meeting
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John Pytlak
Film God
Posts: 9987
From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 10-15-1999 02:12 PM
The SMPTE Committee on Projection Technology (P3) is meeting during ShowEast in Atlantic City. The meeting will be held at 8:45am on Wednesday, October 20, in the Diamond D Ballroom of the Taj Mahal Hotel.Agenda items include the new SMPTE Projection Manual, a new test film to evaluate screen contrast, the working group on electronic projection, cyan dye track implementation, extended length reels (ELR), and a progress update on solutions to polyester film issues. These SMPTE technology committee meeting are open to all interested parties, who are encouraged to become participating members of the committee by attending meetings and replying to committee ballots. More information is on the SMPTE web site at:
http://www.smpte.org Bobby Pinkston of Dolby Laboratories is the current chair of the committee. ------------------
John Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Professional Motion Imaging
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Eastman Kodak Company
Rochester, NY 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Fax: 716-722-7243
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Ian Price
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1714
From: Denver, CO
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 10-15-1999 03:10 PM
In response to the SMPTE meeting being held in Atlantic City; What do think are the 3 items that need to be addressed by the industry? If all of you will respond, I will type up a nice letter to Bobby Pinkston with the 3 most pressing needs and we can see if they will address them.These are my choices. 1. Lack of standardization in the film shipping industry. i.e. Heads out or tails out, dirty film cans, old film cans and all of the troubles with Technicolor.
2. High-speed, low-quality film printing.
3. The problems with extended length reels. I have deliberately picked items that need to be addressed outside of the theatres. I am interested in what you guys come up with. This letter can be from Film-Tech as an organization and I will post it for review before sending it to Bobby Pinkston. We need to be quick, ShowEast starts Monday.
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Brian Paymer
Film Handler
Posts: 31
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 10-15-1999 09:57 PM
If we have to limit our rants to three then I would say,Theatres should be able to pick the film stock their films are printed on. Wouldn't that be great? It would be interesting to see which film brands and stocks were chosen by the people who run the prints and not the paper pushers. The prints should always be delivered on Mondays for Wednesday openings and on Wednesday for Friday openings. There should be no exceptions except for circuited prints after the break. ELR's should be used but only on Goldberg split reels. Those plastic things don't stay together any better than Technicolor's small reels.
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John Walsh
Film God
Posts: 2490
From: Connecticut, USA, Earth, Milky Way
Registered: Oct 1999
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posted 10-16-1999 12:20 AM
1. SMPTE should sort of take over where TAP/THX left off. Actually give out
plaques and stuff like THX. Since they are a non-profit organization. people
will believe in their approvals, like Consumer Reports. I know they sort of
want to stay neutral, but I feel they should take a stand. You pay, say, $100
a year, you are listed on their web site and in the journal as being OK'ed,
get a few free snipes; certification is done by approved techs (like tech's
who get Dolby approved) To help prevent fraud by either the theater or a tech,
all details are listed on their web site and in the journal so anyone can
verify at least some of that theater's claims. This way you don't have to
even buy THX approved stuff.2. Get the studios to stop screwing around and get ELR's going. Theaters can
save many $$. Also, I think there will be less mistakes to be made by
inexperienced people during make up / break down (who are not going to go away,
so we might as well deal with them.) Not surprisingly, this includes ELR's
that don't fall apart and fit on regular spindles. 3. Standardize the two holes for the platter take up ring.
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Rick Long
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 759
From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 10-16-1999 02:28 AM
I'll third Art's post. Agreed. To be realistic, however, the Society is concerned only with film and equipment - not any underqualified personel that may operate the stuff.The most important issue, I beleive, is one of image quality on the film, as pointed out by Ian. This is paramount to the results on the screen. No matter how expensive the lenses, how steady the intermittent, how perfect the light, if the image on the film is lousy, the result will also be lousy. This must be addressed if we are to stave off digital projection for as long as possible. It is encouraging to see polyester film issues being addressed. Kodak has made great improvements in this area. Service calls to repair damaged equipment (bent roller shafts, damaged stereo solar-cells in Cinemeccanica projectors, ect.) are down considerably from what they were two years ago. However, all film stock is not Kodak. Unfortunately, I doubt whether the film exchanges will pay much attenton to any S.M.P.T.E. recommendations. Their main criteria for selection of equipment will be based on a dollar issue, not a presentation one.
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Erika Hellgren
Expert Film Handler
Posts: 168
From: Denver, Colorado
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 10-16-1999 06:27 PM
I have to disagree about pushing for ELR's. If ELR's become standard, then booth operators will have less work to do, and there won't be any justification in keeping full time workers in the booth. Professional projectionists will be pushed out of the booth completely. We don't want to validate what theatres are doing when they put popcorn shovelers upstairs, do we? Also, if ELR's are standard, Hollywood will pump out even more films/year than they are now, which won't make very much money, which is bad news for theatre owners.Let's concentrate on getting the films in earlier so they can be inspected. Also, my biggest gripe right now is the labs - the shakey images, the wavey horizontal lines that show up from time to time, spilled dye, white specks, ect...
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