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Adam Birge
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From: College Station, Texas
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 - posted 07-15-1999 04:25 PM      Profile for Adam Birge   Email Adam Birge   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
So, what did everybody think of it? I'm not going to say much about the movie because alot of people won't see it untill tonight.
Just my basic impressions:
I thought it moved pretty slow and was extremely long..but for some reason I loved it and can't wait to see it again. I have weird tastes, though, but I love Kubrick's dark style. I hope to see what everyone else thinks.

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Brad Miller
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 - posted 07-16-1999 01:22 AM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
I think it would've been nice if ALL 9 reels would've been in SDDS.

Yes, reel 5 (one of 2 prints) at the Galaxy had ONLY SRD and DTS tracks. It must be presented in SDDS since the DTS units are busy chasing those non-SDDS prints which are becoming more and more common.

Anyone else get a print like this???

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Joe Redifer
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 - posted 07-16-1999 02:51 AM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I don't pay attention to the SDDS track, so I can't honestly answer that one. But when that one movie came out.... what was it called??..... you know...... Oh yeah ---> "I Know What You Did Last Summer" Reels 2 and 3 were both in Dolby Digital, and every single other reel was in SR only. It was exactly like this on both of our prints. Of course, I disable the auto-dolby digital and just ran the entire thing in SR.

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Brad Miller
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Whoa! I screened both of those prints and they take the cake for worst-all-time-sloppy-lab-work! They must've cut corners like the theaters do and hired a concessionist to print them!

One print had two good reels, and they weren't all that great either. One reel had no SDDS as mentioned earlier and the other six had base scratches! Fortunately, many scenes are dark and they aren't noticeable, but they're there jiggling on the right edge just waiting for the next bright scene.

The second print had three bad reels with the same characteristic scratches.

Upon inspection of the leaders (platter house) the scratches run right on through them, thus not an operator error.

I called one other theater whom I knew the projectionist's mobile phone number and he had the same problems with his print.

How many other people got scratched prints of this movie???

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Brad Miller
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Oh yeah,

I liked Eyes Wide Shut as a whole, but not the ending. That's all I can say without spoiling it.

On another note, everyone be sure and check out 6th Sense. I know the trailer looks lame, but if you watch the film in it's entirity you will like it.

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Jim Ziegler
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Our 2 prints wern't scratched, but reel 1 of our first print was, apparently, printed on dirty base. That is the best explanation I can come up with for the neon green "hairs" during the opening credits.

As for the movie, I liked it, but what the hell was it about?

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Erika Hellgren
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 - posted 07-16-1999 07:48 PM      Profile for Erika Hellgren   Email Erika Hellgren   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
OK, I must be the only one who didn't like the movie, oh well. Did anyone else find the picture to be overly grainy?

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Brad Miller
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The film was intentionally shot with high speed film for that "look".

Interestingly enough, I've found a few other theaters around town that have the same identical scratches mine had. One other theater also had a reel 6 without an SDDS track too. For some reason, many managers won't say anything about it for fear they will get charged by Warner for the print. How many managers are out there who don't give a flip about their presentation like that?

Warner Brothers was overly gracious in sending out TWO brand new prints. These prints were from the Rank lab in Europe and on Fuji stock!!! The quality FAR surpasses the ones Technicolor did on Kodak stock, and that's ignoring the scratch defects too.

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Joe Redifer
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The movie sucks. Sorry. I don't think anybody should try to overanalyze it. Kubrik probably knew that people would do that and just made a movie about nothing and planned to sit back and laugh as people picked through it and proclaimed that his brilliance has struck again. I agree the ending sucked, but that it because there really isn't any ending at all.

I'd rather watch South Park.

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Brian Paymer
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 - posted 07-18-1999 03:38 PM      Profile for Brian Paymer     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I didn't like the movie. The ending totally ruined what there was to like about it.

My prints looked ok except for a few light black scratches on two reels. My manager won't report it because he says we will be billed for it.

Is there any way to request Fuji prints in the future? Kodak prints shed too bad. Will the studios give the option or did Brad just luck out?

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Jim Ziegler
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As for the ending, it should have ended when he was crying to his wife and telling here he would confess anything... Of course, the party scene should have been cut down to 5 minutes or so too..


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Sheldon Harris
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 - posted 07-18-1999 10:26 PM      Profile for Sheldon Harris   Author's Homepage   Email Sheldon Harris   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
This film totally "sucked". Not only was it stupid, but it made me feel stupid for watching it. Slow beyond believe with a most unsatisfying ending. I just heard on the TV it took in 22 million this opening weekend...well, I say its all down hill from here because the "word of mouth" is going to be awfull.

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Ian Price
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 - posted 07-19-1999 12:39 AM      Profile for Ian Price   Email Ian Price   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well, I’m going to have to contradict all you young whippersnappers out there in Film-Tech land. I loved Eyes Wide Shut!

But first a word about the presentation: I saw the 7:30 show at Denver’s UA Colorado Center. This is a nice theatre with what I thought was decent presentation. The theatre was in chaos; there weren’t enough people at the box office. We stood behind 30 people one hour before show time to get our tickets. We then went and had dinner. We arrived back at the theatre where we found the assistant manager running around apologizing for canceling a film. There was a line of people at a refund window. I wandered around to see what had been canceled but I didn’t figure it out.

I skirted the lake of coke on the hallway carpet to get to my auditorium and found I had to sit in the second row. I understand it is opening weekend so I didn’t make a fuss. Will Rogers started and stayed in Non-Sync for the whole trailer. No one collected for it. The Trailers had platter scratches on them. The film did not. They use Christie projectors and there was so much jump, that my date made a comment like “I wish the projector would stop shaking.”

There was dirt at every splice. Hurry up with Film-Guard or P5. We need to get the industry to mandated its use.

The theatre was full of kids who thought they were there to see an ”R” rated porn film. They were disappointed. Cell phones went off constantly during the film. I leave mine at home when I go to the movies. (Much to my bosses dismay.)

When I left the film the manager was apologizing to 100 people in the lobby that there was no 10:50 show. She said that there was a mistake with the ad. If I had 100 people in my lobby wanting to see a film only 20 minutes after I was supposed to be closed I would show them a film.

I think I will go back and see the film in it’s sixth week when all the hoopla has died down, and at a different theatre. Now, about the film:

All Kubrick’s films are about obsession. This one was just about the Calvin Kline's kind of Obsession. I didn’t find the film erotic. I don’t know if I should have. I did find it spell binding. I loved that Dr. Bill kept trying to cheat on his wife because of an obsession about her dream. At every turn He was thwarted. I even liked the ending. Hillary Clinton has shown that a wife can forgive more. At every turn you kept expecting something and at every turn you got something unexpected. I don’t think anyone second-guessed this whole film.

Did anyone else find the orgy scene cold and sterile? Did anyone find the film erotic? Did anyone feel that if they saw behind the digital people, who stood in our way at the orgy, the film should have been rated any different than it was? The film isn’t about sex it is about obsessing about sex. Did you notice the Stanley Kubrick signature close-up? Every Stanley Kubrick film has a close-up of the main character that defines the film. I this one it is where Dr. Bill is sitting on the bed listening to his wife tell her fantasy.

How did you all like the score? I thought it was brilliant. I hope it gets mentioned around Oscar time. I hope the actors don’t get mentioned I didn’t think that it was their best performance. Nicole was good, but underutilized. I think Sydney Pollack should get a mention for best supporting actor. He was great.

Well, I will see if the film holds up to a second viewing in a few weeks time.



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Joe Redifer
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The weirder the film, the more you like it, Ian (serious). So I am not suprised.

I am suprised that you called the presentation "decent" however. The Colorado Center is world reknowned for its major suckage. They had dirt on every splice already??? Even without FilmGuard or anything else, it takes a few weeks before any dirt collects on my splices. Sounds like they don't know what they are doing. The theatre needs to be torn down and turned into a K-Mart. I would never put scratched trailers on anything. I would configure my automation to switch to the proper sound format. It is theatres like this that make mine look phenomenal, so perhaps there is still a use for the Co Center.

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Ian Price
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Joe,

I thought, in the past, that they might have had decent presentation. What I saw last night was in no way decent. I will come to your theatre and see Eyes Wide Shut later and see how FilmGuard is working on a part-time basis. I need to wait untill all the kids have stopped sneaking in to watch kiddie porn.

Ian

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