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Joe Redifer
You need a beating today

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posted 05-24-2008 04:51 AM

This would be so easy to defeat. I should post an online tutorial.

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Brad Miller
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posted 05-24-2008 04:54 AM

Do it. Maybe the geniuses who devised this nonsense will be able to follow it. In fact, make an html page.

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Mike Blakesley
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posted 05-24-2008 10:42 AM

I'll bet Spielberg didn't know about this. If he had such control over everything else, he surely wouldn't have allowed this.

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Mike Schindler
Jedi Master Film Handler

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posted 05-24-2008 02:57 PM

Has anyone actually heard what this sounds like? I watched two different prints in two different auditoriums equipped with SRD prior to coming across this thread, and I didn't notice a problem with either. So just now I went downstairs and watched most of the reel again, and I still didn't notice anything. The sound did not seem to drop out of SRD, and I couldn't hear anything that sounded out of the ordinary. I would assume that the sound would need to be fairly noticeable for it to be detected on a crappy bootleg's audio.

Is it possible that the code appears in different parts of the reel? I watched from the Tarzan scene through the waterfall scene.

Next time I'll watch the processor and see what that does. I'm also going to listen to the reels from both of our prints during the last set, but I'd like to know what it is I'm listening for. Is it just a complete dropout of sound?

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Marco Giustini
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posted 05-24-2008 03:06 PM

On my reels the blu line on SRD is much lighter (in density) than Technicolor ones. Perhaps it's not enough to drop to SR.

I'll check tomorrow and I'll let you know

Marco

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Mike Schindler
Jedi Master Film Handler

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posted 05-24-2008 03:54 PM

I just watched that scene on our other print from the booth, and the sound does indeed drop out of SRD on that print. I'm going to try to be in the auditorium for the next show to see what it sounds like.

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Carey Barber
Film Handler

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From: Newport News, VA, USA
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posted 05-24-2008 05:05 PM

We received the following notice from Deluxe Film Services:

quote:
The problem is NOT with the reel. The problem is either with there DTS or Optical reader. There reader is out of alignment. The track is set up to revert back to analog and 'IF" it's not there reader is out of alignment.

Jenna Mars
Booking Coordinator / Art Division
Eastern Territory
Deluxe Film Services

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Mike Schindler
Jedi Master Film Handler

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posted 05-24-2008 05:26 PM

I went into the theater and listened again during the last show. The track dropped out of SRD, but I did not hear anything out of the ordinary on the soundtrack itself. I did, however, see a bunch of orange dots on the picture. So if this new audio code is a replacement for the visual code, it seems like the less distracting of the two. That being said, I'm guessing they'll continue to use both.

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Emma Tomiak
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posted 05-24-2008 06:18 PM

I think Jenna at Deluxe needs to go back to elementary school and learn to spell.

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Chris Slycord
Jedi Master Film Handler

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posted 05-24-2008 06:32 PM

Nah. Her spelling is perfect.

On the other hand, she could clearly use a grammar lesson. [Razz]

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Marco Giustini
Expert Film Handler

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From: Reggio Emilia - Italy
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posted 05-24-2008 08:53 PM

Emma is right [Smile]

No, the system is not designed to replace the visual one. I spoke with Technicolor once, and they made this system to "stop" [Frown]

pirates that takes (particularly in my country) DVD rip from US on p2p and replace the sound recording it in cinemas. So they must put something in a "portable recording" bandwidth.

Next step is a subtitle "this is copy # 342..... this is copy #342" with a voice that says the same thing over the soundtrack.

Glad to hear that this anti-piracy mark is not so annoying, but it's a very poor waste of money, lot of money.

However, in the real world many theaters does not have SR readers so aligned, or just have older processor (say CP65 + DA20) where drops are more evident.

Marco

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Mike Blakesley
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posted 05-24-2008 08:53 PM

Emma and Chris, you took the words right out of my mouth (or keyboard).

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Chris Slycord
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Houston, TX, USA
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posted 05-24-2008 10:51 PM

quote:
Emma is right [Smile]

Actually, she's not. She didn't misspell anything; she correctly spelled the wrong word which is different from misspelling.

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Emma Tomiak
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posted 05-24-2008 11:29 PM

Yeah yeah yeah [Razz]

I actually should have used the word grammar as well, but I was in a hurry to make an amusing remark before anyone else and I didn't think about it. [Big Grin]

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Darryl Spicer
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posted 05-25-2008 01:10 AM

Checked our DTS during the scenes in reel #5 and it does not revert back to analog or drop sound in any way.

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